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David schreef:

nag nag nag nag. all what i have seen so far in your posts. nag nag nag.
just play the game pal. big players made it boring, kicked everyone out. they had no one to kick anymore, they start kicking on forum and saying stupid nag nag nag comments. plzzzzzzzz.....
so are you saying that the 2 players wolfieke and drv is what all this game go around? it will crash with out em? big_smile funny game big_smile
so far i like it, played for 2 months, always destroyed, but i like the gameplay and design, kinda unique. interacted with mods only twice, they were nice. i avoid chat a bit though, only when i need help. i think the game needs more features, and more less agressive players.
*throws a magic charm of anti-nag* swooosh


You obviously don't know what you are talking about.
Many people have quit this hame due to the moderating team, many more will........
Someone with an attitude like yours won't even make it in the top 25 player rankings tongue

Your village is 38100% bigger than the defending village. You will probably lose 90 honour by attacking this village. If someone of your clan attacked this village earlier, every clan member will lose honour.

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how about rank 14? big_smile though it didn't last well sad
but yeah, i know exactly what i am talking about. i have seen arrogance of a lot of players to know what this is about. stupid player on stable ruining the game, and blaming mods. then i join speed, see the worse player base, and try to stick in.
i read the complete threads about complaints. nag! nag! repeat after me, it's NAGGGGG!!!
many people are quitting because they cant twist the game and its team to their own benefit and desires. my cousin got banned from ever playing runescape because he ran 2 accounts. what i have seen here is far less harsh, and reading people who had multis in past still allowed to play. they have no right to complain.

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Nobody is complaining about not being allowed to cheat.
Read the forum, it's all about abuse of mod status.

Rank 14?
Village rank 14 would make sense, hiding in vmode tongue

Your village is 38100% bigger than the defending village. You will probably lose 90 honour by attacking this village. If someone of your clan attacked this village earlier, every clan member will lose honour.

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David schreef:

nag nag nag nag. all what i have seen so far in your posts. nag nag nag.
just play the game pal. big players made it boring, kicked everyone out. they had no one to kick anymore, they start kicking on forum and saying stupid nag nag nag comments. plzzzzzzzz.....
so are you saying that the 2 players wolfieke and drv is what all this game go around? it will crash with out em? big_smile funny game big_smile
so far i like it, played for 2 months, always destroyed, but i like the gameplay and design, kinda unique. interacted with mods only twice, they were nice. i avoid chat a bit though, only when i need help. i think the game needs more features, and more less agressive players.
*throws a magic charm of anti-nag* swooosh

Mate I have been playing the game for a short time and acheive a lot, I am so glad that people like you who shut their minds to corrupt moderators that can remove you if you are a threat to them, I think you will never acheive that, just a pathetic little person who has no thought process, just another robot and a dreamer who thinks he will be a hero one day, but for all of our sake you will be nothing.

Whamra, your attitude is disgracefull, if you are what this game is supposed to represent then the owners of the game have no hope of it becoming a great game. You fail to address anything, you have been caught out lying, you have been shown to be a hypocrite, you are not fit to be a moderator in fact you should be removed from the game, you have so many priors for a range of things that any player would be removed from the game, the only thing that saves you is your mates in higher places, at least you have friends like the wannabe hero David

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and i proved everything that i have done. something many of the complainers failed to do. i lied about nothing, these are your illusions and dreams. this game has been running (disregarding the deprecate version) for a year and a half. up until october, that is, 1 year, the game was running just fine. until cheaters started joining in masses this game. and things went out of hand. strict, harsh, zero-tolerance were placed and applied all over the game, much to the dismay of many players, ironically enough, whom most of the complainers back then, were the cheaters themselves, Vilmore made it very clear how their habits evolve.
and up until late January, the game was running just fine, though stable was losing its players due to a needed reset and getting old (it lived over a year, much more than 70% of strategy web-based war games), and speed was losing players insanely fast due to an unbalanced gameplay, mixed with very aggressive players. that is still, till then... not the moderators responsibility. after that, players went crazy about retaining player base, to the extent that some went as far as suggesting allowing multis, and even doing so. cheating, is NOT tolerable in this game. playerbase little or large, the removal of a player will be permitted if he/she cheats. i am not going to repeat my last hundred posts, what wolfie did was unacceptable on speed, and her failure to report a multi to a moderator was unacceptable.
the thing that saves me is my honesty and direct approach to solving matters, unlike most of you who rely on throwing a load of garbage in hope something will hit a moderator and makes you look the saving hero of the dolumar community. the community doesn't need saving. it survived just fine and quite happily until those with heroic anti-mod manners for no reason came into the game. people who are happy to join any anti-mod campaign for any reason possible, even if it means nothing to them. *you* are the ones who are wannabe heroes.
and higher ranking friends? who is saving my neck? you arent going to trash the developers now, are you?

just that guy... remember him? didn't expect you to...

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no conan. i comment on what i see and read. i am no kid here, but reading your comments, you look like you are one. i pity you my friend. shut my mind to corrupt moderators? wow. DUDE, do you know that this is not a government or political regime here? you sound like some rebel fighting for the freedom of his country or somethng. :\
and i would certainly appreciate you remove this direspect from your comments to me. i am !!not!! a pathetic little person, and i have all the thinking of my own. thank you so a lot very much. you are the one brainwashed by some people.
i do not know any of the mods, neither do i know much of the playerbase, but i am here, all the time, reading and reading all this bull**** being put in the game. i am very amazed someone with your attitude has not been banned yet, because you are pathetic!

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Whamra you want to call me a cheater fine call me a cheater.
You want to say there's nothing wrong with the game fine say so.

I started this game in Juni last year. Since day one I heard alot of complains from alot of players. Yes some were cheaters, most were not.
I have spend my time trying to keep them in the game, I failed in that alot.
Since the beginning of speed things went wrong.
I've been in a small clan getting farmed since day one.
I have been in 2 number one clans.
I have spend my time learning and trying to understand.
Yes the big players are responsible for many players to quit, but this all can be explained by the bad developing of this game.
Read my post and pms again, I have been trashing the developers.
You are the one not playing on stable, hidding in vmode on speed.
You admit you, Daed and Vilmore deside what wil happen.
I'm asking you one more time. Listen to the complains, think about it and you will see that I was right. If you don't want to believe me ask the many players who have quit (the non cheaters) who asked me to do something. Don't just fight back or ignore it, try to fix it, try to do something about it.
I am no hero or trying to be a hero, I am a girl who saw something wrong and tried to do something about it.
I failed, I give up.
I'm sorry for every who hoped the other way.

Edit: And Conan, it's not that some others mods don't want to do anything, they can't.

Laatst bewerkt door Wolfieke (2010-04-13 18:07:52)

Guess who's back big_smile
Some dog in a movie: play?

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conan schreef:
David schreef:

nag nag nag nag. all what i have seen so far in your posts. nag nag nag.
just play the game pal. big players made it boring, kicked everyone out. they had no one to kick anymore, they start kicking on forum and saying stupid nag nag nag comments. plzzzzzzzz.....
so are you saying that the 2 players wolfieke and drv is what all this game go around? it will crash with out em? big_smile funny game big_smile
so far i like it, played for 2 months, always destroyed, but i like the gameplay and design, kinda unique. interacted with mods only twice, they were nice. i avoid chat a bit though, only when i need help. i think the game needs more features, and more less agressive players.
*throws a magic charm of anti-nag* swooosh

Mate I have been playing the game for a short time and acheive a lot, I am so glad that people like you who shut their minds to corrupt moderators that can remove you if you are a threat to them, I think you will never acheive that, just a pathetic little person who has no thought process, just another robot and a dreamer who thinks he will be a hero one day, but for all of our sake you will be nothing.

Whamra, your attitude is disgracefull, if you are what this game is supposed to represent then the owners of the game have no hope of it becoming a great game. You fail to address anything, you have been caught out lying, you have been shown to be a hypocrite, you are not fit to be a moderator in fact you should be removed from the game, you have so many priors for a range of things that any player would be removed from the game, the only thing that saves you is your mates in higher places, at least you have friends like the wannabe hero David

How do you insult a new player and then call someone elses attitude pathetic? I completely agree with David, Everyone needs to chill out.

The easy part was getting the brain out! The hard part was getting the brain out

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David wrote "oh cool! can i have your runes please? specially those you took away... and weapons too, LOADS of'em would be fabulous!
thanks!!! "
Then claimed he had read all the post and went on about "nag nag nag" which I concluded he had read the posts but failed to understand any of it. The first posting of Davids {above} when Wolfieke made the announcement she had had enough and was quiting was degrading wolfieke which I have a lot of respect for, remember she did a lot to try and get the game changed.
David then tell us how good he is, well I am not interested in that, what I am interested in is what happened to her and DrV.

So Voldtekt you agree with davids comments on Wolkieke, you agree about his claim that this is a nag session, I thought you had read and understood most of the conflicting posts we have had on here, maybe I was wrong.

So what did you think of Whamras posting about ishatar and hellikins posting that showed he was lying? I thought that demonstrated what I and others have been talking about which escaped david intellectual ability to reason as he has made no comment on it.
Is it classed as cheating if my son uses my computer to join Dolumar through netlog as I did, using the only computer we have in our house?

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No I actually don't bother reading anything anyone says on this subject for two reasons.
#1 We've already tried. It isn't going to happen
#2 I don't like to watch people bicker about crap.
"He hurt my feelings"
"She made fun of my friend"
"I don't agree with that persons sense of humor"

The easy part was getting the brain out! The hard part was getting the brain out

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whamra , you proved everything you have done?

{whamra1987 wrote:
        wolfie on stable was queued for reset by Ishta, i reviewed and approved}

{Hellikin wrote:
    Not according to Ishtar}

you: ever considered the fact that 2 mods didn't realize we were discussing stable, and thought this was about speed when they answered?

please explane, cause you cleary said stable when Hellikin said not according to Ishtar.
And if Ishtar was talking about speed, didn't she put me up for reset on speed too?

you: resets are NOT shared with the rest of the moderators when performed, unless the moderator wanted to, and he is not obliged to at all, because every reset passes to a higher authority who reviews it, the administrator.

Ok this proves you could do this on your own. Problem is: you take things out of pm's and post that aren't there.
Examples: the boy and girlfriend thing in dealing with Cinderela.
                 in the topic vacation on this global forum you tell me dead already took care of it about the chat, I never said anything about chat.
You can not take a decent decisions when you see things that aren't there. The administrator is you or Vilmore (anyone else?). Vilmore hears the story from you. You see things that aren't there.
You tell your part of the story and in my case left some things out.

You: that said, the moderators were NOT randomely chosen based on some popularity contest. each and every moderator, was carefully hand-picked by me, Daedeloth and Vilmore. and later on, through moderator suggestions, that still, were reviewed carefully before getting approved. this was not applied to only 3 moderators, namely, morph, gonzalez (both are dutch), smaug (chosen by Daedeloth himself).

Daed and Vilmore have little interaction with the players, so the only one who knows the players who wanted to be a mod is you. If I'm not mistake the 2 mods that where carefully handpicked last by the 3 off you are (ex)tsr
Don't tell me this has nothing to do with it. When you have 5 of the same applications, you will pic the one you know the best. This falls under peronal feelings.

you: so take it this way, whether you like it or not, this is how the game is run. you have an issue, you complain to a moderator. the issue is with a moderator, complain to the administrator. both are supposed to answer.

supposed to answer? I'm not the only on who's messages have been ignored.

you: this game has been running (disregarding the deprecate version) for a year and a half. up until october, that is, 1 year, the game was running just fine. until cheaters started joining in masses this game. and things went out of hand. strict, harsh, zero-tolerance were placed and applied all over the game, much to the dismay of many players, ironically enough, whom most of the complainers back then, were the cheaters themselves, Vilmore made it very clear how their habits evolve.

You have let it run out of hand, you are a bad example in chat, you have lost respect from many players. Where's the zero-tolerance in chat? Where's the zero-tolerance when mods behave bad?

you: the thing that saves me is my honesty and direct approach to solving matters

honesty? You lied (still haven't disproven that), you have mislead people.
direct approach? you came online 2 days before Ishtar freaked out, didn't say a thing.
                           your direct approach is taken decisions without trying to find out what realy happend and seeing things that aren't there.

when we say the game is not fine, you tell me it's fine if you have questions ask me.
I already explaned what's wrong with that, especialy for the non english players.
But you also say the mods cut corners to safe time, they don't have to explaine everything to safe time. Yet you want to answer the same questions a million times, when it would help the newbies alot if they have a good explanation of the basics in the game.
How is anyone going to survive or want to play, when every mistake you make on speed can cost you 25% off your runes.
The big players get bored because there is noone to attack, even if they play sim city for a while, there are no new players coming because they don't understand the game.

I am not trashing you to trash you, I am trying to let you see what is wrong here. So stop being selfish and stubborn and only defending yourself and try to think of ways to make this game better for everyone, not just yourself.  Try to think of ways to improve the mod team.
Do that and you wont have this mess again.

Laatst bewerkt door Wolfieke (2010-04-14 05:41:07)

Guess who's back big_smile
Some dog in a movie: play?

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Did I not read Hellikins post that made you out a liar?

whamra1987 schreef:

and i proved everything that i have done. something many of the complainers failed to do. i lied about nothing, these are your illusions and dreams}
You claimed ishtar place wolfieke in a que to be reset, you review it and reset her.

Hellikin posted that Ishtar never did
so who is lying?

whamra wrote
"what wolfie did was unacceptable on speed, and her failure to report a multi to a moderator was unacceptable."
I have read far too many conflicting posts to consider it a clear cut case of cheating, and again "on speed" so why a ban on stable?

Whamra wrote
"the thing that saves me is my honesty and direct approach to solving matters"

So how can you say one thing about a moderator putting wolfieke in a list to be reset, when it was denied by the same moderator. How can you claim you reviewed and reset wolfieke when it was never put up for review by ishtar?

Wolfieke's explaination and what she did seems to fail the criteria of what you would call cheating, for example if my sone turns on the only computer in my house and logs onto Dolumar via netlog as I did, registers and plays am I deemed to be cheating?

Wolfieke used the same e mail address, I think she is too smart to try and cheat and use the same e mail, cheaters try and cheat and manipulate the game and are very cautious about how they do it, only very dumb ones would use the same e mail address, as my son would have, not that i am saying he is dumb but it is our only e mail address.

whamra wrote " *you* are the ones who are wannabe heroes.
and higher ranking friends? who is saving my neck? you arent going to trash the developers now, are you?

I am not a hero nor do I think or want to be, but what I do want is the correct justice delt out to players, I want moderators to be impartial, so they should not be players, I want to see honesty be the main guide, I want to see a game community working together to acheive the best result for the game, I do not want to see players crucified for what can only be described as a dubious decision based on far too many conflicting evidence, so much so that the benifit of the doubt would rule in favour of the players. It seems like all players that are deemed to be cheaters are guilty and punished without due consideration as to the circumstances.
The one question that bugs me is that wolfieke was banned on speed and stable at the same time which was before she was accused of cheating on stable, so how can you ban a player from 2 seperate games, if cheating goes on in speed and it is 100% conclusive, then ban them and vice verca, but do not ban them from both.

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Voldtekt schreef:

No I actually don't bother reading anything anyone says on this subject for two reasons.
#1 We've already tried. It isn't going to happen
#2 I don't like to watch people bicker about crap.
"He hurt my feelings"
"She made fun of my friend"
"I don't agree with that persons sense of humor"

just wondering why you are here and why you reply to nothing as you do not read anything anyone says on this subject.
Maybe this time read whamra's post and Hellikins reply and tell me that is bickering or showing us all where the truth is.

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conan schreef:
Voldtekt schreef:

No I actually don't bother reading anything anyone says on this subject for two reasons.
#1 We've already tried. It isn't going to happen
#2 I don't like to watch people bicker about crap.
"He hurt my feelings"
"She made fun of my friend"
"I don't agree with that persons sense of humor"

just wondering why you are here and why you reply to nothing as you do not read anything anyone says on this subject.
Maybe this time read whamra's post and Hellikins reply and tell me that is bickering or showing us all where the truth is.

Because if I don't then a blue square will bug the crap out of me.
If I read them will these stupid topics that produce nothing but contempt for your fellow players cease?

The easy part was getting the brain out! The hard part was getting the brain out

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David schreef:

nag nag nag nag. all what i have seen so far in your posts. nag nag nag.
just play the game pal. big players made it boring, kicked everyone out. they had no one to kick anymore, they start kicking on forum and saying stupid nag nag nag comments. plzzzzzzzz.....
so are you saying that the 2 players wolfieke and drv is what all this game go around? it will crash with out em? big_smile funny game big_smile
so far i like it, played for 2 months, always destroyed, but i like the gameplay and design, kinda unique. interacted with mods only twice, they were nice. i avoid chat a bit though, only when i need help. i think the game needs more features, and more less agressive players.
*throws a magic charm of anti-nag* swooosh

poor David.

Seems your yet another imature little person.

Stay off the forum unless you have a proper grown up post to make

You know nothing of what has occured over the last year or so

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Poppy schreef:
David schreef:

nag nag nag nag. all what i have seen so far in your posts. nag nag nag.
just play the game pal. big players made it boring, kicked everyone out. they had no one to kick anymore, they start kicking on forum and saying stupid nag nag nag comments. plzzzzzzzz.....
so are you saying that the 2 players wolfieke and drv is what all this game go around? it will crash with out em? big_smile funny game big_smile
so far i like it, played for 2 months, always destroyed, but i like the gameplay and design, kinda unique. interacted with mods only twice, they were nice. i avoid chat a bit though, only when i need help. i think the game needs more features, and more less agressive players.
*throws a magic charm of anti-nag* swooosh

poor David.

Seems your yet another imature little person.

Stay off the forum unless you have a proper grown up post to make

You know nothing of what has occured over the last year or so

Stop being rude.

The easy part was getting the brain out! The hard part was getting the brain out

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Voldtekt schreef:
conan schreef:
Voldtekt schreef:

No I actually don't bother reading anything anyone says on this subject for two reasons.
#1 We've already tried. It isn't going to happen
#2 I don't like to watch people bicker about crap.
"He hurt my feelings"
"She made fun of my friend"
"I don't agree with that persons sense of humor"

just wondering why you are here and why you reply to nothing as you do not read anything anyone says on this subject.
Maybe this time read whamra's post and Hellikins reply and tell me that is bickering or showing us all where the truth is.

Because if I don't then a blue square will bug the crap out of me.
If I read them will these stupid topics that produce nothing but contempt for your fellow players cease?

Click on new messages, read the onces you want to read, click on mark all as read and the bleu square is gone.

Guess who's back big_smile
Some dog in a movie: play?

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if you guys can't do anything but complaining and insulting each other, SHUT THE F*** UP!
sorry for the language, but i am getting sick here...
if you want explanations for what happened, fine, if you want to complain, fine, but do it in pm with the mods/admins and stop bothering us... i bet more than half of the members on this forum are sick about the arguing and fighting, and just want to play the game... this forum was made for bug reports, feedback and questions, not to fight and to insult. if you don't know the player you are talking to, then don't say things you can't be certain about. this david guy might be a new member on the forum but he might as well be one of the most powerful players in the game who created an account with a different name.
i already know 5 other players personally who are sick of this s***, and about 30 more not so close, and i bet there are hundreds more who just don't give crap about these things and just want to play the game...
it's ok with me if you want to do this discussion, but don't do it here please

whamra1987: language please

Stable didn't last, goodbye Dolumar.
mods can delete this account if they want to, maybe they'll do something usefull for once.

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Telling you (Voldtekt ) and David to "PISS OFF" would be rude...i wasnt rude

Laatst bewerkt door Poppy (2010-04-14 12:18:54)

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Fatal_Error_shutdown schreef:

if you guys can't do anything but complaining and insulting each other, SHUT THE **** UP!
sorry for the language, but i am getting sick here...
if you want explanations for what happened, fine, if you want to complain, fine, but do it in pm with the mods/admins and stop bothering us... i bet more than half of the members on this forum are sick about the arguing and fighting, and just want to play the game... this forum was made for bug reports, feedback and questions, not to fight and to insult. if you don't know the player you are talking to, then don't say things you can't be certain about. this david guy might be a new member on the forum but he might as well be one of the most powerful players in the game who created an account with a different name.
i already know 5 other players personally who are sick of this ****, and about 30 more not so close, and i bet there are hundreds more who just don't give crap about these things and just want to play the game...
it's ok with me if you want to do this discussion, but don't do it here please

If you don't want to read this, ignore it. But you can't ignore something is wrong here. It's killing the game. This is the only way we can try to do something about it and the only way to make sure that everybody who can do something about this can read it.

Guess who's back big_smile
Some dog in a movie: play?

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Poppy schreef:

Telling you (Voldtekt ) and David to "PISS OFF" would be rude...i wasnt rude

Yes you were. Deal with it.

The easy part was getting the brain out! The hard part was getting the brain out

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It doesn't really matter guys, you can call eachother whatever you wish.
The developers are AWOL.
Mods that can give answers to questions are MIA.
All good mods are KIA.

The game is what it is, **** up cause of the small player base, screwed cause of the inbalanced battles and very sucky cause of the cheaters that were around.

Just make of it what you can.....
I'm done with all of it, will treat anyone as a farm, just wish we had some larger farms. big_smile

whamra1987: LANGUAGE!

Your village is 38100% bigger than the defending village. You will probably lose 90 honour by attacking this village. If someone of your clan attacked this village earlier, every clan member will lose honour.

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Demonic schreef:

The developers are AWOL.
Mods that can give answers to questions are MIA.
All good mods are KIA.

what is that supposed to mean?

Demonic schreef:

I'm done with all of it, will treat anyone as a farm, just wish we had some larger farms. big_smile

didn't you do that already?

Stable didn't last, goodbye Dolumar.
mods can delete this account if they want to, maybe they'll do something usefull for once.

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Fatal_Error_shutdown schreef:
Demonic schreef:

The developers are AWOL.
Mods that can give answers to questions are MIA.
All good mods are KIA.

what is that supposed to mean?

Demonic schreef:

I'm done with all of it, will treat anyone as a farm, just wish we had some larger farms. big_smile

didn't you do that already?

Nope, i managed to send out 3 attacks this week, 0 last week....
Still complaints? bring your army and have them do the talking.
I'm kinda done with all the bitching and moaning of a few weaklings who can't play a friendly game.

So we'll skipp the friendly part and i'll farm you all!
perhaps i'll farm you friendly if the sun is shining and i'm having a good day. tongue

Your village is 38100% bigger than the defending village. You will probably lose 90 honour by attacking this village. If someone of your clan attacked this village earlier, every clan member will lose honour.

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Demonic schreef:
Fatal_Error_shutdown schreef:
Demonic schreef:

The developers are AWOL.
Mods that can give answers to questions are MIA.
All good mods are KIA.

what is that supposed to mean?

Demonic schreef:

I'm done with all of it, will treat anyone as a farm, just wish we had some larger farms. big_smile

didn't you do that already?

Nope, i managed to send out 3 attacks this week, 0 last week....
Still complaints? bring your army and have them do the talking.
I'm kinda done with all the bitching and moaning of a few weaklings who can't play a friendly game.

So we'll skipp the friendly part and i'll farm you all!
perhaps i'll farm you friendly if the sun is shining and i'm having a good day. tongue

YOU sent out 3 attacks. What about your clan?

The easy part was getting the brain out! The hard part was getting the brain out