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That would be a great idea, if you have supported dolumar finacially then yes you should have some sort of reward if a reset happens.
Why would anyone start a new game full of bugs, they had a game and introducing 1 change at a time without bugs and created based on what the players wanted, would have stable way ahead of where it is now without bugs players happy no arguements, sound very simple to me.

Did I not read Hellikins post that made you out a liar?

I am not a hero nor do I think or want to be, but what I do want is the correct justice delt out to players, I want moderators to be impartial, so they should not be players, I want to see honesty be the main guide, I want to see a game community working together to acheive the best result for the game, I do not want to see players crucified for what can only be described as a dubious decision based on far too many conflicting evidence, so much so that the benifit of the doubt would rule in favour of the players. It seems like all players that are deemed to be cheaters are guilty and punished without due consideration as to the circumstances.
The one question that bugs me is that wolfieke was banned on speed and stable at the same time which was before she was accused of cheating on stable, so how can you ban a player from 2 seperate games, if cheating goes on in speed and it is 100% conclusive, then ban them and vice verca, but do not ban them from both.

Mate I have been playing the game for a short time and acheive a lot, I am so glad that people like you who shut their minds to corrupt moderators that can remove you if you are a threat to them, I think you will never acheive that, just a pathetic little person who has no thought process, just another robot and a dreamer who thinks he will be a hero one day, but for all of our sake you will be nothing.

Whamra, your attitude is disgracefull, if you are what this game is supposed to represent then the owners of the game have no hope of it becoming a great game. You fail to address anything, you have been caught out lying, you have been shown to be a hypocrite, you are not fit to be a moderator in fact you should be removed from the game, you have so many priors for a range of things that any player would be removed from the game, the only thing that saves you is your mates in higher places, at least you have friends like the wannabe hero David

So another wanker makes a stupid comment, what has happened to Wolfieke can happen to you. Is is a very sad day when a great player leaves because of a discredited moderator.
Yes Stable is very boring, so why not work on stable to improve the game, to speed it up. Loosing Wolfieke has made me think what is the use of playing this game, it has lost all of its fun, not enjoyable anymore.
The owners of the game have put an incompetent moderator who lies and misleads people on this game to the point they are driven away, so why are they not doing something to rectify the problem.
The other moderators why haven't you done something, you all read the posts and understand you have a dud, get rid of him, I think Wolfieke and DrV are worth more value to this game than him.
Just bloody do something!

If I am not mistaken there is still enough doubt about the cheating issue and the moderators telling the truth  {whamra1987 wrote: wolfie on stable was queued for reset by Ishtar}
Hellikin wrote
Not according to Ishtar

Moderators not united on this issue, claims of players not wanting to be reset and so on and on.
The one most important issue is the players were harshly and incorrectly delt with and both should be offered to be reinstated to the level they were when reset.

This semms to be the only issue on Global forum that has been hotly debated by all with the majority in favour of the players, we see DrV may never play Dolumar again, if that is an indication the moderators should fix the problem then put in place measures that will see this never happen again.

I have read wolfiekes posts and the story told is concise and legitimate, Whamra posts have far too many flaws and is very inconsistant, his story does not add up and so his credibility as a moderator has to be questioned.

Players like Fatal_Error_shutdown seem to want this to go away, but you must realise it cannot as it can and will happen to other players like you me and others, when you have people that lie controling who plays this game.

All the players putting post on here are fighting to make sure this is corrected and is never going to happen to another player. I do not see what the problem is, reinstate the players, put measures in place that will stop this issue happening again and place credible people in charge of this game, no players with hidden agendas, no players that lie, no players that are emotional and cannot make rational decisions based on facts and I mean ALL the facts. How simple is that, do it now and we all can go back and play the game, contribute to improving the game and most of all have fun.

whamra1987 wrote "regarding conan.... again, it seems he knows nothing of the truth, and just the type of people who enjoy hijacking any thought and post he see to throw a load of trash around, which he understands none of. are you even a speed player? you yourself said you're a stable player"

So you finally have admitted something, the 2 bloody games are seperate!!!!!!! Now that you have done that fix the problem, tell your other moderators what you have said here, if you are brave enough.  Reset the players and fix your mistake.

whamra1987 wrote "it was a joke gone bad. like it or not, it was a joke. and i dont even understand why ishtar was included in the attack since she wasnt even there when the joke happened, or even supported it, her grandfather was a WWII fighter in germany... as for me? mt grandfather has a permanent walking disability because of a bullet in his foot from a german officer during vichi french control.
i do *not* endorse the massacres the man ever did, it was a *joke*"

When was it a joke to you? I read the above and discover people you know were affected, so when you decided to make hiltler a "joke" knowing the above facts did you care about them and their feelings then, I don't think so, only now to save your skin.

whamra1987 wrote "there are dozens of other leaders, who've done far worse things in this world, and yes, i've seen their pics posted around dolumar. i dont see you jumping mad on them, why? you just like throwing crap around, i understand"

So now you are using pictures of other murderous people as an excuse and then have the sick claim that they were worse in a feeble attempt to justify your posting, you have a severe problem in your beliefs. I did not see ANY moderator post a picture of any mass muderers only ONE - YOU! So I only jump around when a person that has the power to shut down players and chat does something as dispicable as you have done.

According to Wolfieke, whamra1987 wrote "Ok you got me.
    I understand the resets are final, but I still don't understand why stable was reset when two mods said on global this is not done and 3 mods and Thijs did not know about the reset on stable (and that's the ones I asked, don't know about the rest)"

This is the most damning evidence that you are a liar and you really believe that the players should not have been reset on stable. If you are an example of what the moderators of this game are about then god help this game.
You are a hypocrit, how can you put all the postings you have on this subject yet "behind the scenes" you knew it was wrong, not only did you know but you also believe it was wrong.
You are now obliged to concentrate all your efforts to get the reset changed, you are now obliged to stand by your principles and beliefs and right this wrong, if you are a person of any good character then you will resign if your fellow moderators refuse to change the reset decision, doing that would put you in high esteem among the players of this game.
it is now up to you, do the right thing, good luck with your decision and I hope you make the correct one.

Please try and read all I have written, there is more to my post than a 2 line response

Then PLEASE answer my questions on which one you consider the worst crime, I have not used vulgar terms or "r" rated things, but a moderator in my opinion has.

I am reposting it because NO ONE has answered my questions!!!!!!!
Ok, So with that threat I will have to stop trying to get a response from ANY moderator about the very important issue, which is what do the moderators believe was the greater crime and from your threats I have to accept the grey doubtful area of cheating and the resetting in 2 seperate individual games as the most vile of acts which deserves the greatest punishment, while the H%#@!*  {don't mention the war} is considered so minor a laugh and giggle behind closed doors is the punishment, well due to your threats and censorship I will have to come to my own conclusion that you don't care what a moderator does no matter how repulsive, but at least some of your moderator friends removed the threats to their dream of being the the king pin of the game.

I read your reply over and over and can only find threats to me but not one mention of the questions I asked which falls in line with moderators feedback to players, and if I am not in a confused state of mind, is it not the players that make this game what it is and the moderators are there to discuss and answer the players questions and concerns.

I am others are getting disallusioned at the way this issue has been handled, there are far too many games competing for players and actions like the moderators have done to those 2 players only makes players look elsewhere. I pay money into the owners account as I believe that each player should to keep this game going, but why should I bother anymore, just be like the majority and just play the game for a while then leave

whamra1987 and Ishtar seem to beleive that Hiltler was a comedy a joke all in jest, they seem to think you can post a picture make comments supporting the murderous regiem, and have no regard for anyone that was affected by the killing of millions and miilions of people.
At the same time these 2 buffoons think that a questionable crime of cheating is punishable by a total reset on both stable and speed, am I missing something here!!! they should be banned not the other two.
These 2 fools who are by their postings are contemptable of all the participants in this game, they need to do the honourable act and remove themselves from this game, the owners of the game, yes owners as they make money to keep the game going let people like them oversee this game must have a look at themselves and ask why?

The other moderators cannot be in the same lowlife league as these 2, surely they have morals which they live by, surely they can see that these 2 are a blight on this game and society , a cancer that is growing to the detrement of this game. Look at youselves and seek what you believe in and if you find that your reluctance to act on these 2 has failed the interest of this game then remove these 2 cancerous players who proport to be unbiased moderators.

the 2 players you reset have to be reinstated, there is no other alternative, you have allowed a player/moderator to insult the vast population of the world, you have allowed him to desecrate memories of the people that suffered at the hands of this murderous tyrant and you ban 2 players in the same game!!!! and fail to do anything against him, what are you people thinking.

I have noticed how you stop discussion by closing posts, a form of censorship so i am waiting for them to ban me because I will not stop until the 2 players are reinstated and the fool you call a moderator is totally banned and I hope all others will do the same.
Moderators and owners of this game get your act together and find your morals to do the right thing.

I have read all the posts from the day I first put up my post and have come to some conclusions that cannot be disputed. The first is the vast majority of player disagree with what happened to the 2 players. 100% of player believe you cannot punish players on both servers. The dragging out of this issue is becoming a joke or we as members of this game are being treated like fools.

I also have an issue with a mod, I do not know him or much about him but I read he places pictures of Hitler within this game and make some sort of claims. if this is true then I do not care what he claims but I do care about having the worlds worst murderer on this web site, i am not a jew or have any relationship with any countries he invaded and murdered its people, but I am sure the vast majority on this web site, the dutch espeacially would be offended. IF this is all true that a mod did this then there is no reset for this person it is a total ban, how can 2 players be punished so hard when a mod can do this, you cannot compare!!!
Now lets reinstate the 2 players back to where they should be and get on with improving the game, and do it QUICK!!!!